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Sunday, June 3, 2012

Panzer IV/70 (V)

I have been working on the old painting queue lately, and I finally got around to the Battlefront Panzer IV/70s I had sitting around. This unit is pretty good for Flames of War - kind of a poor man's Panther. Clocking in at 150pts each, they are a pretty good value for the cost. You give up some armor front and side, a turret and some mobility for the points break.





Again, I went for my standard camouflage technique. I did go for smaller patches, which I like for these.





D'oh! I forgot to rust the SPARE tracks on one of these - AND I forgot antenna -- man, I'm slackin'!

To avoid silvering of the decal on the Zimmerit, I applied the decal with water as normal. After that, I took my hobby knife and made holes all around the numbering in the clear areas. This allowed the decal solvent to get behind and solve the silvering problem.

From the Grey Wolf source book from Battlefront Miniatures. Image courtesy of Easy Army.

15 comments:

Braxen said...

why would you put rust on a model that has been anti-rust primed and will have a life span of at most 4-5 months?

Andrew said...

That's something I never understand. Tanks don't get nearly as rusty as people model them, especially their tracks which are almost always moving against abrasive stuff which would keep rust to a minimum.

Look at a Caterpillar bulldozer next time you're near a construction site and see how rusty its tracks are. They're usually very dirty but completely free or the red/brown active rust you see people painting.

Anyway, they look good DJ. I think its a pretty cool tank myself but probably not worth the cost compared to Panthers in most cases.

minutiaeofwar said...

These look great Dirty Jon. I really like how you have done the mud effects on the sch├╝rzen, the way that it rises and fades and obscures the camo is great. The anti shine technique is an interesting idea. Did the gloss varnish technique not do the trick for you? Are these models different from the ones that you get in the new boxed set?

I think that Dirty Jon may be talking about the spare track links on the backs of the PIV/70s. I would assume that these would be exposed to the elements without getting the rust 'cleaned' off through activity.

Matt Varnish said...

I thought the krauts had some red anti-rusting primer for the tracks that shows through? Maybe that's the red he means?

Dirty Jon said...

@all: I am talking about the spared, piled up track on the back. I didn't rust the moving tracks on these.

@minutiaofwar: I did gloss these. When Zimmerit is present, the uneven surface often captures cair behind the decal resulting in silvering. By poking holes in the decal, I am preventing that air from being captured.

Dirty Jon said...

Oh, and these are not the new models. They added steel front wheel options and went with 1 type of hull.

not2oldtowargame said...

These are really great - thanks for posting them up DJ. Good tip on the decals - thanks.

zsavk said...

I believe the Germans painted all their exposed metal parts with a Zinc Oxide primer to keep it from rusting. The color of which ironically is Reddish brown or "Rust" color. The moving tracks definetely wouldnt have much if any of this coating left. But spare unused tracks would be covered.

Its basically the same paint that Structural Steel for building construction is painted.

SinSynn said...

Being overloaded makes the Panzer IV/70's 'meh.'

Dirty Jon said...

Yeah, but they sure do look cool!

Vulture said...

They look great !

Ancientsociety said...

@braxen & Andrew: There is no such thing as "rust-proof". Metal can be treated to be rust-RESISTANT, but all metal parts showing any degree of usage/wear, exposed to rain/snow/mud/varying temperatures 365 days of the year, and being in combat (meaning frequent field repair/replacement) will rust quite quickly.

As for the "construction site" example, ask any construction worker who goes to a jobsite where the tracked vehicles have been sitting out overnight and they will tell you that there is at least some rust on the treads, even if it's only a dewy morning.

Dan said...

Those look nice Jon. I just wish they would make these available for more lists - right now they are only available to hungarians, Feldneralle panzers and Feldernalle infantry (which are expensive becaue they are MG teams) plus the lists in BGG (maybe a few more but I'm not sure). I'd love to see these available to Grenadiers but I don't know if that's historically accurate or not - it would be cheaper than using tigers.

So what list are you going to use these in?

Dirty Jon said...

@Dan: I think some Hell's Highway lists have them too. I have no list in mind -- I just thought the model was cool.

Uriah said...

Has anyone compared these to the new box of Panzer IV/70 (V)'s that came out recently? I just assembled my box of the type reviewed and can't get any more from my FLGS.

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