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Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Soviet HQ PTRD Anti Tank Rifles

This is just a quick update.  I got these in a trade from Fellow WWPDer and N00b Extraordinaire Joe Mezz.  He had done the majority of the work on them, so all I had to do were a few details and base em up!

From WIKIPEDIA
The PTRD was a single-shot weapon which fired a 14.5x114mm round. Although unable to penetrate the frontal armor of German tanks, it could penetrate the thinner sides of early-war German tanks as well as thinly armored self-propelled guns. The 14.5 mm armor-piercing bullet had a muzzle velocity of 1012 m/s. 




It could penetrate an armor plate up to 35 to 40mm (40mm with tungsten ammunition) thick at a distance of 100 meters at 0 degrees. During the initial invasion, and indeed throughout the war, most German tanks had side armor thinner than 40mm (PzKpfw I & II: 13-20mm, III & IV series: 30mm, PzKpfw V Panther (combat debut mid-1943): 40-50mm), which meant that the PTRD teams need to be close to very close–sometimes point blank distances–to have a chance of penetrating the sides of these tanks. 




However due to the high velocity and small size of the round, it had a very high chance of shattering or utterly failing against armor it should have penetrated, which was aggravated if the target was not at a perpendicular angle.


The Strelkovy HQ



14 comments:

Tyler said...

Very cool! Do you think they are effective weapons in FoW? It's too bad that they are rated as gun teams, reducing their counterassault capabilities and totally denying the ability to assault.

Chris said...

Except as gun teams with ROF2 they can shoot in assault and do well against side armour.... you try assaulting with a 2m long gun.../;-)

Tyler said...

Very true about the ROF2 but still doesn't help if there are no enemies within two or you actually want to assault someone.

As for firing it in combat, I have no experience with PTRD but I imagine it would be about as difficult to handle in an assault as a bazooka :D

pudson said...

Two meters long, a bazooka ain't.

Tyler said...

Remember, assault doesn't necessarily mean you're physically swinging the weapon at the enemy tank. I would say this Band of Brothers clip is a reasonable representation of assault combat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYFU4hXDg4

For 4:10-5, I would say the bazooka team would count as assaulting in FoW. It seems pretty difficult as is, I don't know how having a 2m long gun would make that much of a difference.

Tyler said...

Anyways, what I really want to know is if the PTRDs are actually useful in FoW. Their FP is still an awful 5+ if I remember correctly.

cbaxter said...

great work as always, i like to attach these to my infantry and use these to take out gun teams that are dug in and light recon or half tracks.

Chris said...

Use them to kill annoying recon vehicles that are removing your "Gone to Ground", also if you place them correctly around an objective, you can pretty much guarantee that armor players will have to get with in 2"

The Kiwi said...

They are also great for just increasing ya Team count giving your Platoons a bigger total.
cheers

bristolscale7 said...

The PTRD benefit from the volley fire rule so they get to reroll to hit. However, as gun teams they are vunerable to being picked out by enemy fire. In addition, as gun teams they no longer count towards "quality of quantity" which is a pity. They will still make mechanized opponents think twice about assaulting.

Tyler said...

Does "Volley Fire" still work in defensive fire? I had heard that that was no longer the case.

indierockclimber said...

No more volley in defensive fire, but it's still enough to make halftracks wary!

As for whether or not they are worth it- it depends. They're dirt cheap. 12ish points a pop for an extra stand that has ROF 2 with volley fire seems like an okay deal, but there's plenty of situations where they're next to useless!

Dirty Jon said...

... but they look cool and that is enough. =)

jmezz382 said...

Cool indeed ... Nice finishing touch Steve ! They look great with your brave comrades !!!

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